The Covid cure has arrived!

[Steve R.]

Covid -19 testing is a catch 22. If you test positive you will need a negative result to resume "normal activities". If you test negative you have a snapshot of now this will be void within a few days. You will need a negative result every few days to continue doing "normal activities".

In the near future - every person will be required to carry an IV that pumps their blood through a Covid testing module for real-time results. Test positive, a signal will be sent-out and you will be immediately apprehended and carted off to the nearest quarantine facility.

 

[AccessBlaster]

It's not really the virus that is the problem, it's governments new found powers that will never go away.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

It's not really the virus that is the problem, it's governments new found powers that will never go away

The virus is a means to an end for some governments, in some countries the whole covid cycle, i.e get vaccinated, cooling period,new variant,lockdown etc is used to siphon money and propagate new ideology based on the timing of Covid in each country.

Some leaders who are inefficient used the covid/pandemic as excuse for the poor performance of their government.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

In the near future - every person will be required to carry an IV that pumps their blood through a Covid testing module for real-time results. Test positive, a signal will be sent-out and you will be immediately apprehended and carted off to the nearest quarantine facility.

This might not happen, if the new variants are not as deadly as previous ones, it's the death toll that is a key determinant, this increases fear in people.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

When asymptomatic people get tested, you will always see more "cases". But no one with any sense cares about "cases". We care about how many people are actually sick or dying.

A number of cases might matter, scientists have not concluded if Covid can have long-term health effects on people, e.g asymptomatic people, to me is something to be worried about.

 

[Steve R.]

This might not happen, if the new variants are not as deadly as previous ones, it's the death toll that is a key determinant, this increases fear in people.

It was my attempt (at graveyard humor) to go to a ridiculous logical extreme of government control. The problem is not the virus, but how those in power attempt to use the virus as an excuse to implement nonsensical onerous requirements under the (false) excuse of protecting us.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

It was my attempt (at graveyard humor) to go to a ridiculous logical extreme of government control. The problem is not the virus, but how those in power

We have science to thank, I think it's been at least 50 years since the world witnessed such a pandemic, government always wants to control the populace, it's one of the reasons governance is attractive.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The question was asked: When will we be done with COVID-19?

The answer is "never." That is a scientific assessment based on the fact that within the last two years, we have had not less than half-a-dozen mutations, some of which were either deadly or fast-spreading or both. I.e. it has a fast mutate rate. This is not a good thing because it means we will run into problems eventually because we run out of the letters of the Greek alphabet BEFORE we run out of COVID variants. Perhaps at some point when we reach COVID-19 Omega, we should officially discontinue COVID-19 and call the next variant COVID-23 (and start over again at Alpha for the variant.)

I'm not necessarily being tongue-in-cheek either. COVID-19 has a track record for moderately fast mutations and science is, among other things, based on the principle that the past is a valid predictor of the future. But if you think about it, how many versions of influenza have we had in the relatively brief history we have involving a germ theory of disease? We will probably develop a generic immunity that will make COVID-19 deaths diminish. But there is also the theory that the disease is its own throttler. IF it kills us TOO fast, it kills off its own disease vectors. So the diminished lethality of the Omicron variant may ALREADY be an adaptation of this type.

 

[Isaac]

The question was asked: When will we be done with COVID-19?

The answer is "never." That is a scientific assessment based on the fact that within the last two years, we have had not less than half-a-dozen mutations, some of which were either deadly or fast-spreading or both. I.e. it has a fast mutate rate. This is not a good thing because it means we will run into problems eventually because we run out of the letters of the Greek alphabet BEFORE we run out of COVID variants. Perhaps at some point when we reach COVID-19 Omega, we should officially discontinue COVID-19 and call the next variant COVID-23 (and start over again at Alpha for the variant.)

I'm not necessarily being tongue-in-cheek either. COVID-19 has a track record for moderately fast mutations and science is, among other things, based on the principle that the past is a valid predictor of the future. But if you think about it, how many versions of influenza have we had in the relatively brief history we have involving a germ theory of disease? We will probably develop a generic immunity that will make COVID-19 deaths diminish. But there is also the theory that the disease is its own throttler. IF it kills us TOO fast, it kills off its own disease vectors. So the diminished lethality of the Omicron variant may ALREADY be an adaptation of this type.

Reading that made me feel very small in comparison to nature.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Sadly, we didn't learn anything from this outbreak of COVID.

But Pat, that is not true. We learned unequivocally and definitively that a Democrat can never let a good crisis go to waste.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

But per the old quote misattributed to more than one of the founding fathers, Those who trade security for liberty shall soon find that they have neither.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

Politics in this era has become dirty in some countries that used to be good examples of leadership, only a few countries still remain true to what leadership stands for.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

Also, if you don't mind, can you tell us where you're from and if you are an immigrant, why you emigrated.

I am from Nigeria and based in Nigeria.

Can you tell us where you think actual freedom still exists?

I am referring to leadership, not freedom

 

[Isaac]

But per the old quote misattributed to more than one of the founding fathers, Those who trade security for liberty shall soon find that they have neither.

Personally, I find that the word attributed or misattributed is often misattributed.

To me it is perfectly acceptable to "attribute" (in an informal way, such as "such and such. --author name") a saying to anyone who has said it.
UNLESS you are explicitly stating that that person was the first person to have ever coined or used the phrase, and doing so incorrectly.

McDonald's is certainly not the first entity in the world to have said "I'm lovin it", but they can still be credited with popularizing and championing the phrase, in a flag-planting sort of way.

Additionally, it may often just be a matter of precise wording versus the same gist with slightly different wording.
Because historians seem to agree that Benjamin Franklin definitely said it, but with slightly different words.

Am I in the mood for semantic wrangling today? Sheesh! I guess so

 

[Isaac]

So it seems that the governors of NY and FL are - in what appears to be the first major effort to do this even though we are going into TWO YEARS WITH COVID - are urging hospitals to stop reporting as a "COVID hospitalization"=any person in a hospital who also tests positive for COVID......But rather, to start ONLY reporting as "COVID hospitalization" any person who actually required hospitalization FOR COVID.

Remember, the VAST MAJORITY of all COVID cases are so minor people barely realize they even have COVID.
Remember #2, a large percentage of the population is going to end up getting COVID at some point or another.

Let that sink in for a minute while you acknowledge to yourself that all this time we have been looking at what I would call "garbage DATA" regarding COVID hospitalizations.

"There are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics".

As data developers, we should know better than anyone that the definition of a metric has everything to do with how it should reasonably be interpreted, but whenever people question the definitions, they are shunned by the liberal elite as grandma-killers.

Well anyway, now we know. I had already known that COVID deaths were overstated in developed countries due to financial incentives for hospitals who report as a 'covid death' anyone who died while carrying covid. I figured OK, that makes some impact, maybe not real great.

Now that I realize it pertained to "hospitalizations" the entire time..........Gee, it really ought to make me learn my lesson about questioning "The Data"

 

[Steve R.]

There is NO Covid vaccine anymore.
Covid has mutated to be "immune" to what we formerly called vaccines.
Seems that there is an emerging recognition, that even if you have been "vaccinated" that you can still get sick and spread it.
With that in mind, time to adapt to Covid. We need to approach Covid now like the flu with the focus on therapeutics for treatment.

I saw a headline for an Atlantic article that I have not gone back to read. The headline basically states that too many people who lack Covid symptoms are demanding that they be tested for Covid, with the consequence these people are using-up all the Covid test kits.

1. This is ludicrous as the Biden administration is pushing fear and demanding that everyone be tested. So dah, we run-out of tests. A no brainer.
2. Unless tested, people are either being fired from their jobs and/or otherwise not allowed to work. Again, dah. These people need to get tested by (illegal) government decree.

Now to be fair to the Atlantic, even-though they push an irrational left-wing agenda, I did not read the article, so they may have addressed those points above. Essentially, the Biden administration is "creating" the testing shortages by pushing fear along with illegal mandates that people get tested.

Update: Why the incessant onerous mandates to show a Covid "passport" before you can do many activities???
Biden said that even if you are vaccinated you can still spread Covid. So whether you are vaccinated or not, you can spread the virus. That makes the mandates to "show your papers" irrelevant.

Biden again insists COVID a ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated’ even as fast-moving omicron spreads widely

President Biden said the COVID-19 testing situation in the United States is "frustrating," but maintained that his administration is "making improvements" by creating federal testing sites and making more at-home rapid tests available to the public, while warning the unvaccinated that they...

www.foxnews.com

"Biden admitted that those who are fully vaccinated and boosted "can still get COVID-19," but said it is "highly unlikely" that those individuals become "seriously ill." "

 

[Isaac]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/omicron-variant

Anyone with Omicron infection can spread the virus to others, even if they are vaccinated or don’t have symptoms

Oops!
All those things we said a few weeks ago about getting the vaccine protecting the people around you exponentially is not true anymore.

This is the problem as I stated before with the vaccines. We come to find out they are far less useful then we originally expected that they would be, because things evolve and things change and the science that was right a month ago is no longer right today.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

so of course the count of hospitalizations of people with COVID has always been exaggerated.

This is common in my country too, why would any govt want to inflate such figures knowing that it will increase fear in the society?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Now we have flurona, a combination of the Flu and the Rona. The governments finally figured out they were missing a secret ingredient to their fear porn, the flu. CNN is tickled.

 

[oleronesoftwares]

because things evolve and things change and the science that was right a month ago is no longer right today

science should normally not become irrelevant soo soon, a product that worked well a few months ago should not become powerless soo soon, its either the scientist are not studying well the virus or some information was withheld from them when they were coming up with the earlier vaccines.