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Pat Hartman said:
Mouthing off to a teacher or other generally disruptive behavior was dealt with strongly when I went to school. Somehow we went soft and our children suffer from it. Every child in a class is hurt by the one disruptive element. Private schools have fewer problems because they simply expel disruptive children. Public schools don't have a solution. Once you loose control, it's gone.
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Exactly. It is an outgrowth of the 60's Peace, Love do no harm , movement in my opinion. Kids were raised with those thoughts grew up and were able to set policy etc. It became "harmful to children" if you spanked them. Then it grew to the point where teachers are not even allowed to make a kid stay after school. And many schools are banning homework.

So we have gone from the 50's "beat their asses as needed." to "The teacher hurt my feelings by using a Red marker to grade my quiz."
 
Pat Hartman said:
I spent 13 years teaching my grandchildren to speak in grammatically correct sentences since their teachers did not. They went into kindergarten speaking perfect (for their age) English and it was a running battle for the next 13 years to stop them from saying "like" as every third word.
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Pat, according to Professor S.A. Paipetis language is a living organism, behaving in the same genetic way as every other living creature.
It means that it changes over time.
I'm 58 and I can't understand a word when I hear teenagers talking in the train next to me. Or even sometimes my own kids. But it doesn't mean the way they talk is wrong just because I can talk perfect Japanese and it's different with what I believe is correct grammar.

Shakespeare used to talk and write perfect English, But I bet you have trouble reading Macbeth. I'm proud of myself and I believe I talk perfect Japanese, But to be honest, when I read an ancient novel, I can't understand half of what's written. Not that it's grammatically wrong, but because that type of correct Japanese has died and it has changed to my type of correct one. What I think is correct, has been correct for my generation. New words come and some words get old and get unused and die. The way people talk changes over time and what is assumed to be wrong, gets correct for the next generation.

What you think is "Perfect English", is perfect for your generation. Not for the generation before you, not either for the generation after you. So I think using "like" as every third word, is new correct way of talking English.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Pat Hartman said:
Written English is more formal than spoken English and we just don't use words like "wanna" when writing.
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Tbh, I wanna disagree with y'all. "Wanna" appears in the dictionary. What defines a proper word?
I think it depends on your audience. You wouldn't use wanna in a formal letter, but you would in a text or a note.

Pat Hartman said:
Baring typos which we all make and spell check sometimes makes worse, I can see the decline here.
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Barring. :rolleyes:
 
Whatcha doing later? Wanna play scrabble? I'm gonna be busy for a few hours as I hafta do some fact checking. I kinda love that game. Betcha I can win. Lemme see if there's an online version. 🤣
 
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Umpire said:
One fact that has been easily overlooked about this, is that this report states that the "leak" was in August of 2019 not December of 2019. It was out 4 months longer than people were told.

I have said from the start that there was a virus going through Las Vegas in the Fall of 2019 that was kicking peoples ass for a week. But it was essentially ignored because it was just like an extra bad cold and you were better in a week or 10 days. I would be willing to bet that what we know has Covid-19 is actually the first variant of what was released.

Who in the US remembers the 'Vaping Virus" from a couple years ago? People were getting a mysterious respiratory illness and the only common factor was that they would use a Vape. That virus disappeared when Covid showed up. Also, how many Vape components are made in China?

Food for thought.
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I was very interested in that at the time because I was vaping. And how thankful I am that I got out of that which was the strongest habit and the hardest thing I have ever had to break in my life. I now have little nicotine pouches which don't affect my breathing.
(The fact that the Democrats tried to pass a bill that was going to put such an enormous tax on nicotine by the gram which makes no sense for nicotine pouches and would have increased a $5 product to a $20 cost, sending a lot of people back to cigarettes, was really sick and wrong and I'm sure glad Manchin and Sinema save the day).

But I looked into a lot of those cases and it seemed to me like it was almost 100% limited to black market, friend to friend and usually marijuana laced vapes. I think that was the crux of the matter. But I'm still very glad I gave up that habit!
And I am certainly open to the possibility of the theory that you posited, just mentioning some thoughts that I had about it
 
we're probably talking about two different things. sounds like what Umpire referred was a specific 'outbreak', which has actual data/facts available; what I am referring to are the fairly rare cases of vape lung which sends people to the emergency room for inability to breathe here and there throughout the last few years. I did a ton of reading on it in order to appease those in my family who wished me to quit, and the gist of what I found was that almost all those cases involved 1) informal markets/venues, 2) THC.

John Hopkins says
However, there has also been an outbreak of lung injuries and deaths associated with vaping. As of Jan. 21, 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed 60 deaths in patients with e-cigarette, or vaping, product use associated lung injury (EVALI).

“These cases appear to predominantly affect people who modify their vaping devices or use black market modified e-liquids. This is especially true for vaping products containing tetrahydrocannabinol (THC),” explains Blaha.
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Stay away from peer-to-peer and THC/vape mixes.
Marijuana is legal in enough places to just drive to the store with a $20 if one must get high.
So IMO, no need to engage the black market..
 
My state is legalized and the THC vape pens sell like crazy at the stores. Back when that panic was happening there were a ton of bootlegs. The real ones sell for about $50 to $70 in the stores. The bootlegs were $20 on the street hence they were everywhere. Those were the ones getting people sick.
 
I just wonder what the allure is, I guess.

Isn't it functionally easier to just separate the activities, when you can walk into a store and buy a $20 pack of THC gummies?
 
Isaac said:
we're probably talking about two different things. sounds like what Umpire referred was a specific 'outbreak', which has actual data/facts available; what I am referring to are the fairly rare cases of vape lung which sends people to the emergency room for inability to breathe here and there throughout the last few years. I did a ton of reading on it in order to appease those in my family who wished me to quit, and the gist of what I found was that almost all those cases involved 1) informal markets/venues, 2) THC.

John Hopkins says


Stay away from peer-to-peer and THC/vape mixes.
Marijuana is legal in enough places to just drive to the store with a $20 if one must get high.
So IMO, no need to engage the black market..
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I think we may be talking about the same thing. When it first came out it was HUGE news. Vaping causes breathing issues! But in typical ever changing news cycles, we (the general public) never heard any more about it. The information about it being caused by counterfeit and contaminated vapes was not distributed nearly as wide. Not being a user nor having family that vapes, I never look into it further.
 
Pat Hartman said:
For whatever reason, the Ministry of "Truth" wanted the public to be anti-vaping and so they frightened the general public. Why non-smokers would be anti-vaping is simply beyond me. The anti-smoking contingent claimed that second hand smoke was deadly to THEM and so it was their right to not be exposed to cigarette smoke (fireplace smoke and pot smoke were OK though:() but the water-vapor from vaping is benign and no danger to anyone so why the full court press to cancel vaping is a mystery to me..
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Because big Tabaco could not control Vaping and were losing market share to it.
 
So what is the secret behind why the monkeys were being transported?
www.foxnews.com

Woman who helped monkeys in Pennsylvania crash experiencing health issues: report

A Pennsylvania woman who came into contact with escaped cynomolgus macaque monkeys following a truck crash outside Danville is reportedly experiencing health problems.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
On her Facebook page, Fallon said her symptoms were like those from COVID-19.
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The CDC said it was providing "technical assistance" to the Pennsylvania State Police, and Valley Township firefighters used thermal imaging to try to locate the animals.
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WNEP said Monday that state police, the Department of Health and the CDC decided together that it was best to euthanize the animals due to the public health risk and that the driver of the truck hauling the monkeys had received a ticket. (emphasis added)
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This is similar to many conspiracy movies, a seemingly small incident is really an undisclosed major threat and the authorities are attempting to clean-it up before it actually becomes a full-blown incident.
 
Yeah I was thinking about posting that story. Most folks are okay with the origins of the original virus so they probably won't get to worked up about a few test monkeys escaping from the CDC in the homeland.
 
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