What's your pleasure?

[TessB]

Oh... while I'm here, who does merry old England want us to vote for in the next presidential election? Looks like we have a choice between Hillary, Obama and McCain so far. I could be wrong on the McCain vote, but the Democrats are still trying to decide between Clinton and OBama.

Just wondering what the opinions are across the pond or if they even have one. Have you even HEARD of Obama? I mean, besides the fact that, if elected, he would be the first black president of the USA.

Please NOTE: I don't necessarily want to hear from Americans on this. I want to hear what foreigners are thinking. I want to gauge what the world view is. Hold your tongue Oklahoma, New Orleans, New York, Kansas, etc.... let the opinions run freely here without interruption or input... just to see what they truly want to say. I think it's at least a good input on how effective each of these people would be and what level of respect they would walk into at this point from a world view.

 

[GaryPanic]

my view -

McCain , looks good , has presences however looks a little bit wobble - however a vast improvement on Bush

Obama - would be interesting -again has presences , but doesn't seem to have it all together - kinda of relying on him being black and the need for change (not sure what change - just change)

Clinton - has pedigree, has presences - has policies (I am slightly bias toward Hilary) - partly due to her husband - he might of been slime with women , but he was a steady hand on world politics - understood that bullying will back fire (thats not to say he was weak in any way) - just the way he carried himself , and while Hilary was there in the background - she was an asset to him and the US - on an international front - Hilary wins easly

this is just my view

 

[rsmonkey]

imo when you've got probably one of your best US president's (whose whole policy was about the economy, and made major progressions in the us economy making it the formidable force it was and stil is in the market) as the right hand man along with pretty much the whole of his old financial cabinet in support I think its stupid (literally) that the US arent flocking for Hilary. I may not agree with Hilary on negating free trade with columbia but this is really a minor issue.

Obama I am impressed with he seems down to earth, educated, smart and incontrol.. albeit he does have a series of dodgy deals in his past, which doesnt form good groundings 'imo' for a president. I think that the fall in the economy and faltering support for Bush has brought out the voters in serious numbers, so the coloured vote is helping obama to a large degree and yes i know he has had big wins in predominantly white towns. But as gary sed there is 'something' missing or I am unsure about with Obama.

McCain.. I have no time for really. War veteran, POW etc.. mebbe but the medals doesnt entitle him to the presidency. I can see another bush in him tbh.. A better speaker and more intelligent maybe, but down the rocky republican road is a mistake!

The US voters have gotta see past their religion, racism, sexism, prejudice's and vote for what is right for their country. You vote to much with your heart not your head.

Hilary has got my vote.

 

[BarryMK]

Hi Tess - how are you? Well, I hope.

We have more than enough coverage of the Presidential Race here. Half of our TV reporters are on a US jolly following the circus, although whether something so slow and turgid should be called a race is debatable.

What we'd really like is for you to elect a statesman with significant maturity but not too many years, international understanding, broad intellect and financial savvy, well good luck then......

We'd also like someone like that here as Prime Minister. Mmmmmmm......

 

[Brianwarnock]

For me its more whom I don't want than whom I do.
I don't want another warmongering republican, I don't want another "right to lead" family member and that just leaves Obama.
What worries me is how much we don't know from this distance, as despite large news coverage it is still limited by time and producers' etc slants despite what some may say.

Brian

 

[Rabbie]

Personally I would hope Hilary but I don't think she will win the Democrat nomination. The way the primaries have gone it looks like McCain is benefitting from the Democrat in-fighting. I would prefer any democrat over a republican but it really isn't up to us - its America's choice.

 

[KenHigg]

... how much we don't know from this distance

That's a first...

 

[Brianwarnock]

That's a first...

Not from me it isn't.

Brian

 

[dan-cat]

That's a first...

ssshhhhh...

 

[Rabbie]

Should be an interesting election. Either the first black president or the oldest or the first woman. Which will the USA go for??

 

[Tay]

If I could vote, then I'd vote for Hilary. But there is little really between her and Obama. As long as it isn't a republican.

 

[KenHigg]

As long as it isn't a republican.

That's exactly the attitude our inbreed two party system wants us to buy into, dems or repubs. That way they can pool their resources and out spend everybody else... We should give a toss about the party and vote issues. You can't tell me the leaders of each party don't get together and plan it out that way...

 

[ColinEssex]

Please NOTE: I don't necessarily want to hear from Americans on this. I want to hear what foreigners are thinking. I want to gauge what the world view is. Hold your tongue Oklahoma, New Orleans, New York, Kansas, etc.... let the opinions run freely here without interruption or input...

Nice that Ken has again misread a post - no change there.

Col

 

[GaryPanic]

Nice that Ken has again misread a post - no change there.

Col

Col

nice that you have also misread it "I don't necessarily want to hear from Americans on this"

its a free for all ...- hey we all make mistakes could this be one on your perhaps lol....

 

[GaryPanic]

but on Kens point - interesting view -

no system is perfect and the one you grow up with seems to be the best -
I kinda like the messy affair we have in the UK where you have extreme parties such as the Bucket party , monster raving loney party, the greens total independent parties but we also have the radial extremes as well which aren't so welcome - but are a indicator to public feelings ..


if we had a presidential type election here in the uk (rather than the leader of the party that wins the most votes)- i am pretty sure that the Brits would come up with some joker of a leader -someone who would run for the office just for fun - John Cleese perhaps or Kenny Everret (if he was still alive) and would probably win..

 

[ColinEssex]

Col

nice that you have also misread it "I don't necessarily want to hear from Americans on this"

its a free for all ...- hey we all make mistakes could this be one on your perhaps lol....

Tess said "I want to hear what foreigners are thinking" - Obviously Ken feels Georgia is foreign enough for him to put his oar in again.

It doesn't really matter who gets in - as I said before, Obama is likely to be assassinated, Hillary is a woman who should not put the world to the perils of menopause and HRT and McCain is so old he'll have a turn at the slightest problem.

The main thing is to get Iraq sorted, stop killing US troops (4,000 dead now in Iraq) and stop buggering up the world economy. Stop the USA being so arrogant and thinking it owns the planet.
Get the USA back to a position where it is respected again and not the most hated country in the world.
Sort out the USA home issues and keep out of world affairs, when the USA learns that then we'll be getting somewhere.

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

America has the fire power to destroy the world hundreds of times over - why are they doing it bit by bit?

Col

 

[georgedwilkinson]

America has the fire power to destroy the world hundreds of times over - why are they doing it bit by bit?

Col

Sadism. Slow and painful is much better than quick.

However, I'd like to point out that I don't agree with your premise. But it is a fun debate!

 

[KenHigg]

I think some of the banner adds in this thread are funny:

Hillary Clinton in 2008
Show Your Support! Buy Clinton Tees, Stickers, Buttons, Yard Signs

 

[Rabbie]

But it is a fun debate!

Well said! Lets keep it that way and not lose our sense of humour. A bit of banter - however predictable from some - helps to bring a smile