Foreign Nationals stopped at Miami Port (1 Viewer)

[Rich]

We usually stop after the first couple of head-shots

You'll forgive me for not laughing at something that the British were deeply saddened by in the first place.

 

[Bodisathva]

...they were actually legitimate American citizens with a legitimate cargo for delivery to the port.

And couldn't understand a simple question, posed in English? Am I missing something? What happened to the "must be able to read, write, speak and understand the English language" part of the citizen's test?

 

[Rich]

And couldn't understand a simple question, posed in English? Am I missing something? What happened to the "must be able to read, write, speak and understand the English language" part of the citizen's test?

I suspect the question was posed in American, perhaps your citizen test needs to be changed

 

[Bodisathva]

I suspect the question was posed in American, perhaps your citizen test needs to be changed

Certainly... perhaps something along the line of "When preparing Earl Grey, should you use lemon or milk?"

 

[Rich]

Certainly... perhaps something along the line of "When preparing Earl Grey, should you use lemon or milk?"

The question should be, why drink it at all

 

[Jakboi]

We usually stop after the first couple of head-shots

Lol...well sometimes we do and sometimes...they empty 50 bullets...all depending.

NYC WILD WEST SHOOTOUT

 

[Jakboi]

And couldn't understand a simple question, posed in English? Am I missing something? What happened to the "must be able to read, write, speak and understand the English language" part of the citizen's test?

Agreed...I would especially know what I am doing if I was from a ethnic group that unfortuantely is being profiled.

I dont think the US is alone...Britain, France, and a lot of Euro's hava a huge assimilation problem. Countries within Countries?

 

[dan-cat]

I'm saying that America as society does

So how does that make it 'my' war

 

[Rich]

So how does that make it 'my' war

The term your was used in the context that your referrred to America and not individuals. But then you knew that already, didn't you

 

[dan-cat]

And couldn't understand a simple question, posed in English? Am I missing something? What happened to the "must be able to read, write, speak and understand the English language" part of the citizen's test?

It doesn't even matter if you can speak english. I know for a fact that if you don't give straight answers to straight questions at ports of entry then you get tagged for a grilling. Last time I went through London, Gatwick I had to go through 3 seperate security checks and queue for an hour to get through the X-Ray machine.

 

[dan-cat]

The term your was used in the context that your referrred to America and not individuals. But then you knew that already, didn't you

An American lecturing on innocents being killed due to mass hysteria, I don't think so, your war on terror has killed countless thousand innocents

The context seemed fairly personal to me. The subject of this sentence 'American' does refer to me personally doesn't it?

 

[Jakboi]

I don't subscribe to the view that every funny looking foreigner is a prospective terrorist or bombing innocent civillians in the hope of getting one known terrorist is any better than the actions of the terrorist.

Well that happens to be just the sign of the times. There was the IRA in Ireland who terrorized, and they were white. There for a major part of history the Italian Mafia -- Europeans. Hell John Godi in NYC just went down not too long ago.

Terrorists come in many shapes and sizes colors and flavors. In todays world it happens to be certain people of a certain ethnic group. Thats all.

As long as you are not caucausion, are muslim, not a westerner...then your safe. But for most part...terrorists are after civilians...easy targets.

So you better beleive that I am keeping my eye open to suspicious activity, if not then I would be ignoring history. Americans arent going to return to a pre 9/11 time, and if you forget about that then you are doomed to repeat it.

The bombings of the British subway system is another example why you should pay attention to suspicious people. Call it wrong or right to profile...I call it, I am staying alive.

Like Cypress Hill once said..."I aint goin out like dat"

 

[dan-cat]

Well that happens to be just the sign of the times.

I think it laughable when people try to blame the security forces for impeding their freedoms then lampoon them when some idiot journalist manages to sneak a bottle of coke on board.

My wife hates security checks with a passion and she makes all the border officials know about it. (especially English ones ) She ALWAYS gets the full baggage search and 99 questions and hates it when I don't because I just calmly answer every question that is posed with direct eye contact.

 

[Rich]

The context seemed fairly personal to me. The subject of this sentence 'American' does refer to me personally doesn't it?

You're arguing semantics again

 

[ColinEssex]

My wife hates security checks with a passion and she makes all the border officials know about it. (especially English ones )

We don't have "border officials" we have Her Majesty's Customs and Immigration controls - now thanks to the Yanks unleashing almost every terrorist group and making the world totally unsafe, we have "additional security checks"

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

As long as you are not caucausion, are muslim, not a westerner...then your safe. But for most part...terrorists are after civilians...easy targets.

I don't follow this you need to ask the families of the 30,000+ dead Iraqi's if they feel safe because they are non-caucasion, Muslim and middle eastern.

Col

 

[Rich]

We don't have "border officials" we have Her Majesty's Customs and Immigration controls - now thanks to the Yanks unleashing almost every terrorist group and making the world totally unsafe, we have "additional security checks"

Col

Well that's not quite true Col because the president of the united states has stated that he's made the world a safer place for americans and in a typical american ethos it's f*#$ everybody else!

 

[Jakboi]

We don't have "border officials" we have Her Majesty's Customs and Immigration controls - now thanks to the Yanks unleashing almost every terrorist group and making the world totally unsafe, we have "additional security checks"

Col

Not totally true. Terrorists and or groups have been around for a while and not the total fault of the yanks. In fact...its a middle east thing. There are terrorist groups all over the globe in different countries.

Some things that come to mind:

British Imperialism for most of the modern world - NOT the US
Russia has muslim problems as well - Chechnya*
China just shut down a muslim terrorist group operating there this week
Spain - Train Bombings
India - Train Bombings

etc.


Now muslim extremists hate the US...then why are these countries having a problem as well...its a global issue.

To blame it on the US is a cop out. Pointing the finger. These groups were here before. Go back to the 1977 Islamic Revolution in Iran. The US has only been around 200+years...and you wanna blame it completely for this anger. Lets go back to British, French, Spanish Colonies...Imperialism...for the start.

They have a view on the world that they want to impose. Doestn matter where your from, or what country you live in.

We didnt ask to be attacked in 1993 on the first attempt of the Trade Towers, or even on 9/11. Or when in the 1977 Islamic Revolution in Iran the attacking of our embassy and the hostages that were held.

Maybe the US should just attack embassies like Iran or like Al-queda did twice in Africa. Maybe we should target civilians like they do. Maybe we should become a dictorship and kill our civilians who question our govt? And were the bad guy?

Lets not forget the US is the most generous country in the world and donates far more than any other country in the world. Lets not forget that we saved Europe from Nazi Germany...

 

[Jakboi]

I don't follow this you need to ask the families of the 30,000+ dead Iraqi's if they feel safe because they are non-caucasion, Muslim and middle eastern.

Col

Well you should as IRAN that question...they are using Iraq as a proxy to fight us. They are casuing the unrest in Iraq. Its there IED's, there terrorists coming in.

Iran doesnt want the US to succeed in Iraq. Iran is the problem.

Lets not forget that before we got there...Saddam killed few hundred thousand of his own people, gassed the Kurds in the North, Attacked Iran in a 10 year war, and invaded Kuwait, launched scud missles at Israel... and yet the US is the casue of this?

People forget that we stopped the Japanese Imperialism, defeated Russian communism and the cold war, freed Europe from the Nazi's who the bombed the heck out of Europe, removed saddam a dictator, not to metion we ended WWII, protect South Korea from the North...and yet the US is the bad guy?

 

[ColinEssex]

Maybe we should target civilians like they do.

You do. 30,000 dead in Iraq - hundreds dead in Somalia yesterday thanks to a USA air strike

Maybe we should become a dictorship and kill our civilians who question our govt?

You do via the FBI [ref the film Fahrenheit 9/11]

Lets not forget the US is the most generous country in the world and donates far more than any other country in the world.

Lest we forget - you are also the richest and have bled dry alot of places to get there. Plus the USA destroys many more places than anyone else, that funds the lucrative rebuilding contracts for GWB and his cronies.

Lets not forget that we saved Europe from Nazi Germany...

Gosh really was the USA in it? actually, there were many nations involved in that quest. The USA is not the saviour you think it is - and anyway, you only came in if we paid you, we are still paying [dollars] and the last installments are being paid currently.

Col