Religion

[ColinEssex]

But atheists seem to be among the most devout in their proclamation of their faith.

Even to the point of being disciples for the spread of non-belief;

Thats total rubbish Jenny. Athiests get on with the reality of life and don't fart about getting "guidance" and spending ages trying to find a verse in some old manual that can then be misinterpreted to suit their needs.

Also athiests don't go round annoying people at tea time knocking on doors trying to get people to come round to their way of thinking.

Athiests will discuss their stance, but its usually a religious crank that starts the conversation - other than that, athiests shut up about it because its insignificant and meaningless - as all religions are.

Col

 

[msp]

And what are the first two?

Mice, Then Dolphins ...

 

[Rich]

Like that lunatic dictator Bush - ""God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."ref

Col

Yeah "blessed are the bombed children"
didn't Manson claim to be the "son of god" too?

 

[ColinEssex]

Yeah "blessed are the bombed children"
didn't Manson claim to be the "son of god" too?

That religious freak in Waco a few years back was also the son of god wasn't he?

How many sons did god father for christs sake? and did he have any daughters? all seems a bit spooky to me this getting people pregnant by remote control business.
Poor old Mary eh? bet her and Joe didn't want kids just yet, so they take precautions, then she gets put up the spout by some extra terestrial being - sod 'innit? I'd have been well upset if I was Joe

Just imagine if it was today, some young girl gets pregnant without doing anything - then tells her Mum it was god that did it. . . . . . . she'd be locked up, or at least whisked off to the clinic for a termination.

How come this Jesus person is so say born in the middle east, yet is always portrayed by Americans as a white caucasion with blue eyes and browny / blond hair?

Col

 

[jsanders]

Well what do you think...

I think that should be evendent from at least one of my 1400 odd post.

 

[Brianwarnock]

Only 1400 of your posts odd, now don't be modest.

Brian

 

[jsanders]

That religious freak in Waco a few years back was also the son of god wasn't he?

How many sons did god father for christs sake? and did he have any daughters? all seems a bit spooky to me this getting people pregnant by remote control business.
Poor old Mary eh? bet her and Joe didn't want kids just yet, so they take precautions, then she gets put up the spout by some extra terestrial being - sod 'innit? I'd have been well upset if I was Joe

Just imagine if it was today, some young girl gets pregnant without doing anything - then tells her Mum it was god that did it. . . . . . . she'd be locked up, or at least whisked off to the clinic for a termination.

How come this Jesus person is so say born in the middle east, yet is always portrayed by Americans as a white caucasion with blue eyes and browny / blond hair?

Col

Col your last three posts are over the edge religious raving. "Normal people" compared to "religious" ones. Wake up Col you are one of the raving atheist I'm referring too.

If you read my post on religion and yours, side by side, you will have to concede that YOU are the raving fanatic.

I and most Christians I know do not look down on atheist any where near the way you look down on Christians, we just feel sorry for you.


Can you say the same?

 

[jsanders]

Only 1400 of your posts odd, now don't be modest.

Brian

And a good morning to you too sir.

 

[Brianwarnock]

As is usual with this debate people start to shoot the messengers rather than take note of the message, and the messengers they shoot are the wacky ones, but then nobody hears about the religious people who quietly go about their business, perhaps doing good, perhaps just getting on with their lives and hurting nobody.

I am not active in any religion but that is not because of the actions of any particular person, it is because I cannot accept the message in those I know a little about.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Rich
If you are going to complain about God not intervening in events don't choose man made examples like WW2 , but Tsunamis and droughts that man can do nothing about.

Brian

 

[ColinEssex]

Col your last three posts are over the edge religious raving. "Normal people" compared to "religious" ones. Wake up Col you are one of the raving atheist I'm referring too.

I see, so just because I dare to stray from your extremely narrow religious corridor and ask a few questions. . . . that brands me a "raving atheist"? if you say so Jen - that demonstrates the famous religious understanding that is a key factor in religious belief.

If you read my post on religion and your side by side you will have to concede that YOU are the raving fanatic.

so the Waco guy wasn't a fanatic? my ref to GWB shows he is not a fanatic? people that dare to intrude on anothers privacy, start bleating on about religion with no invitation are not fanatics? Billy Graham and his multi-millionaire cronies are not fanatics?

I and most Christians I know do not look down on atheist any where near how you look down on Christians, we just feel sorry for you

no you don't - you hate me because I don't fit into your snug antiseptic little world

Can you say the same?

If so called christians kept their beliefs to themselves and didn't rabbit on about it - things would be a whole lot better. Why should I feel sorry for you? I don't even know you (well, you are American, but thats the way the cookie crumbles )


Col

 

[jsanders]

I see, so just because I dare to stray from your extremely narrow religious corridor and ask a few questions. . . . that brands me a "raving atheist"? if you say so Jen - that demonstrates the famous religious understanding that is a key factor in religious belief.

so the Waco guy wasn't a fanatic? my ref to GWB shows he is not a fanatic? people that dare to intrude on anothers privacy, start bleating on about religion with no invitation are not fanatics? Billy Graham and his multi-millionaire cronies are not fanatics?

no you don't - you hate me because I don't fit into your snug antiseptic little world


If so called christians kept their beliefs to themselves and didn't rabbit on about it - things would be a whole lot better. Why should I feel sorry for you? I don't even know you (well, you are American, but thats the way the cookie crumbles )


Col

Col you are making my point for me with every post.
You use words like hate, and the very nature of your wording says that you feel more strongly about this than, if not almost every Christian I have ever met, than certainly me.

By the way feeling sorry for me because I’m American is radically misplaced; we have advantages that you cannot possibly fathom.

 

[ColinEssex]

Col you are making my point for me with every post.
You use words like hate, and the very nature of your wording says that you feel more strongly about this than, if not almost every Christian I have ever met, than certainly me.

Nice get-out Jen, I'm not going to persue this as you're not willing to discuss any issues I've raised.

By the way feeling sorry for me because I’m American is radically misplaced; we have advantages that you cannot possibly fathom.

Good for you - us poor Brits can only dream of what it must be like.

I don't suppose you'd like to expand on the "advantages I cannot possibly fathom"?

Col

 

[jsanders]

Nice get-out Jen, I'm not going to persue this as you're not willing to discuss any issues I've raised.


Good for you - us poor Brits can only dream of what it must be like.

I don't suppose you'd like to expand on the "advantages I cannot possibly fathom"?

Col

Well for starters, room, National Forest, big roads, hunting, chile, cheap housing (in some parts), the list goes on.

 

[jsanders]

so the Waco guy wasn't a fanatic?

Col

Of course he was.

But why do you insist on labeling all Americans and Christians by the few news seekers?

 

[Matty]

I'll tell you what also gets on my nerves about so called religious people. Its the "greater than thou" attitude of them, as if they are in some way superior.

I'll tell you what also gets on my nerves about Colin. Its the "greater than thou" attitude of him, as if he's in some way superior.

 

[dan-cat]

Well for starters, room, National Forest, big roads, hunting, chile, cheap housing (in some parts), the list goes on.

National Health Service

 

[ColinEssex]

I'll tell you what also gets on my nerves about Colin. Its the "greater than thou" attitude of him, as if he's in some way superior.

Nice one Matt - I like it Thats the first smile I've had in an extremely bad day

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Well for starters, room, National Forest, big roads, hunting, chile, cheap housing (in some parts), the list goes on.

whats "chile"?

do you mean "chilli"? the imported South American hot meat dish you all eat.

Hunting? - keep it thanks, killing innocent things is not my scene, nor very christian I would think.

cheap housing (in some parts) is not exclusive to the USA

Forests - we have those in the UK (but on a pro-rata size)

big roads - we have those but they are all full with traffic

room - we have those in houses - living room, bedroom, bathroom etc

Col

 

[dan-cat]

I and most Christians I know do not look down on atheist any where near the way you look down on Christians, we just feel sorry for you.

How many Christians believe the man who said these words to be genuine?

"I place a curse on every man and every woman that would stretch his hand against this anointing; I curse that man who dares to speak a word against this ministry..."