North Korean Nukes

[ColinEssex]

They have backyards in the South too, but being very pretentious they often call them Patios or Courtyards, but I think Col understood the term but just decided to be , well, Col

Brian

We have several little patios in our back garden interspersed with shrubs, roses, a pond, various sheds and a greenhouse where the tomatoes are still green!

I've never lived in a house with a "back yard" - it's so Coronation Street.

Col

 

[Rich]

Are you guys serious?
You really don't know what "your own backyard" means?

Well since you were responding to a Guy from Canada you must mean the US 'cause that's the only country in the Canadadian back yard

 

[statsman]

Say the above quote to yourself again and try to see how offensive this statement is. Last time I looked, the USA wasn't the only country in the world.

Dan, I'm attempting to COMPLIMENT the US. Why are you making it so difficult?
If you go back to my previous postS on this topic, you will see that my position is that North Korea has developed nuclear weapons to force the USA to pay them to dismantle them. What other use are they to North Korea?
North Korea isn't attempting to hold the rest of the world hostage for a big cash payout...only the US.
The USA's reaction so far has been exactly what it should be in a tricky diplomatic situation.

 

[speakers_86]

But North Korea isn't attempting to hold the rest of the world hostage for a big cash payout...only the US.

This anti-American propaganda is bologna.

 

[Friday]

People here have tried to bash the UK, but it fell away when most UK posters actually agreed. Col

This is exactly why so many US posters erroneously get upset with Col.

 

[ColinEssex]

I'm afraid the USA doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit the USA. There is no other motive.

Col

 

[Friday]

I'm afraid the USA doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit the USA. There is no other motive.

Col

Or, better yet, the USA doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit the top 5% of the population of the USA...

 

[David Eagar]

My purpose in setting this off was not to be another US bash (fun though that pasttime is) but more to prompt what the rest of us were going to do about NK's lunatic leaders?

If the US doesn't do anything, who else will?

 

[Brianwarnock]

This anti-American propaganda is bologna.

LOL
reminds me of a recent crossword clue
Spicy sausage? Nonsence!

Brian

 

[statsman]

My purpose in setting this off was not to be another US bash (fun though that pasttime is) but more to prompt what the rest of us were going to do about NK's lunatic leaders?

If the US doesn't do anything, who else will?

As long as the lunatics stay within the confines of the asylum (North Korea), why do anything?

 

[oumahexi]

As long as the lunatics stay within the confines of the asylum (North Korea), why do anything?

So if your next door neighbour, in your opinion was a bit of a nutter and every time you seen him he was unloading more amunition into his house, you'd be ok with that? You wouldn't even consider calling the police because he's staying in the confines of his asylum?

 

[oumahexi]

Hi Oumehexi,
firstly, I would like to tell you I am not against US, but I will like to tell you one thing. when you say does lunatics allowed to keep ammunition in their own backyard? if the North Korea comes up with the same statement for United States what will you say?

Where did I actually say that North Korea was a lunatic? Even if it is true. In my opinion, I was simply countering something that Statsman said.

 

[David Eagar]

Peace begets peace.

Neville Chamberlain might beg to differ

 

[oumahexi]

It's more or less the same. you said 'what will you do if your neighbor is loading ammunition at his backyard'. Everybody thinks of his own safety, if North Korea has made nuclear weapon, then US has no rights to go against North Korea, because US itself posses nuclear bombs. To look into other eyes and point fingers doesn't look good, if you yourself is doing the same thing. Peace cannot be obtain out of force. Peace begets peace.

More or less the same? More or less?? That is why innocent people get convicted because jurers are content with "more or less". Did I say it or did I not? Just answer the question before I am forced to beat you into being more placid in your attitude

 

[oumahexi]

Oh, I'm sorry sweetcheeks, I didn't realise you wanted a serious debate.

OK, so, when NATO agreed that the world should start to reduce it's neclear weaponry, which countries did it list as being the ones that were exempt? And if countries want to ignore these directives, does that look stable to you? Where do you draw the line? And is that the same one you accuse me of stepping over?

 

[oumahexi]

First of all UN and Nato directives should be followed by every country. But there are several instances when top countries of the world had ignored UN directives. I don't think I should name the countries,

Oh go on, be a little devil

because you know which countries I am referring to.

I don't, really, I don't, humour me.

therefore, you shouldn't accuse countries of ignoring Nato directives.

Or?

 

[statsman]

So if your next door neighbour, in your opinion was a bit of a nutter and every time you seen him he was unloading more amunition into his house, you'd be ok with that? You wouldn't even consider calling the police because he's staying in the confines of his asylum?

What police are you planning to call? In this situation, your neighbour's name is FRANCE.

It's difficult to enforce UN and NATO directives when N. Korea is not a member of either. The only action available to stop N. Korea from building nukes is to invade or to pay them a huge bribe. My point since this topic began is that the bribe is the only reason they built the nukes in the first place.

 

[oumahexi]

What police are you planning to call? In this situation, your neighbour's name is FRANCE.

You have oversimplified and your example is not valid. The only way to stop N. Korea from building nukes is to invade it. In additon, it's difficult to enforce UN and NATO directives when N. Korea is not a member of either.

Oh I don't think you can ever over simplify anything. People just make life so much more complicated than it is.

So, we call the police, in this case, most countries would look to the US for the job as they seem perfectly happy to fulfill this role.

Back in the real world, if the police aren't doing anything about it you have two options, you can either lift your skirt and run like a wee girlie or get your backside down to the gunsmith and match his arsenal so that you are prepared for when he does blow his top. That, of course, means that you are breaking the law in order to pre-empt your neighbour breaking the law, but, as the police (UN/NATO) aren't interested what are your options?

 

[Rich]

Bush and Bliar both ignored Nato and the US regularly does because it can't control it

 

[oumahexi]

Bush and Bliar both ignored Nato and the US regularly does because it can't control it

The US is right to ignore NATO, they are, after all, in charge!

Maybe you should change your name to NATO and Col can change his to UN, then everything will be as it should be