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[Bodisathva]

That would only hold water if it were true that the white southern belt would be prepared to vote for a coloured president, are you suggesting that it now will?

Nope. If there were a vote here it would be for an "African American"... we never spelled it c-o-l-o-u-r and the term "colored" became taboo 40 years ago when the racial termoil came to a close. Present-day, Rich, present-day.

I will also point out that there is a loooooong distance between not voting for them because of their skin color and looking for the sturdiest branch in the oak tree

 

[Rich]

Nope. If there were a vote here it would be for an "African American"... we never spelled it c-o-l-o-u-r and the term "colored" became taboo 40 years ago when the racial termoil came to a close. Present-day, Rich, present-day.

I will also point out that there is a loooooong distance between not voting for them because of their skin color and looking for the sturdiest branch in the oak tree

There's no such word as colored or termoil, I'm neither American nor living in America, don't therefore lecture me on the English language!
Oh and by the way your fellow American Kraj, doesn't agree with your hypothesis.
As for the present day Americans,you still live by a scrap of paper over two centuries out of date, any chance you might get up to date with the 21st century

 

[Adeptus]

sigh... who said they wanted to discuss politics?

 

[ShaneMan]

I see, so the rest of us are irrelevent then, whats the point in that case of worshiping this "loving" father?
Anyway I thought Jehovah witnesses were the chosen ones ?

No, we're no irrelevent. There's more to how it goes and there are numerous reasons for worshiping this "loving Father."

Jehovah witnesses. Chosen? Where did that come from?

 

[ShaneMan]

For what reason?

No reason given. I guess that's why the term "choosen" is used. God made a covenant with Abraham, in Gensis, and in that conenant God said that Israel would be is choosen people and that He would be their God. It's called the Abrahamic covenant. Much more to it than this though. It also had conditions, which is where we (Gentiles) come in.

 

[jsanders]

There's no such word as colored or termoil, I'm neither American nor living in America, don't therefore lecture me on the English language!
Oh and by the way your fellow American Kraj, doesn't agree with your hypothesis.
As for the present day Americans,you still live by a scrap of paper over two centuries out of date, any chance you might get up to date with the 21st century

We invented the 21st century.

 

[Rich]

We invented the 21st century.

Jen stop cracking jokes this early in the morning

 

[Rich]

sigh... who said they wanted to discuss politics?

It's inevitable since they are both intertwined

 

[Rich]

Jehovah witnesses. Chosen? Where did that come from?

Jehovah witnesses

God said that Israel would be is choosen people

So this loving father had favourites then, what a good example for the rest of us

 

[ColinEssex]

Whether 1066 or 1966, it is not applicable to current, daily life.

God made a covenant with Abraham, in Gensis, and in that conenant God said that Israel would be is choosen people and that He would be their God

Isn't it amazing, we have Bod bleating on about stuff thats only 40 years old not being relevant to daily life.

Then we have Shaney going on about some scribblings that are thousands of years old that he thinks are relevant to daily life. But Bod obviously doesn't because its >40 years old.

Then you get the scraps of paper 200 odd years old that the Yanks seem to hold dear but ignore when it suits - so are these relevant to daily life?

Someones not playing the white man here - you can't both be right

Clarification needed I think

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

We invented the 21st century.

Jenny, I love that - that phrase just sums up the whole American attitude that Yanks are in some way better than the rest.

You - in 5 words, have at last agreed with what Rich and I have been going on about for years - the way the Americans think they own the place and can ride roughshod over the world.

That quote will reappear frequently (trust me) as the American way of thought

Col

 

[Bodisathva]

Rich, you are trying my patience with the animosity you project when backed into a corner. turmoil...so I don't spell check, sue me. as for the other,

Colored and person of color (or people of color in the plural sense) are terms that were commonly used to describe people who do not have white skin or a Caucasian appearance. This usually meant African Americans and other blacks, although the terms can be applied to members of other races as well. The term "colored" in particular (along with "Negro") largely has fallen out of popular usage in the United States, diminishing in frequency in the last third of the 20th century.

now onto someone who can be civilized

Someones not playing the white man here

not another word about southern racial tensions

Clarification needed I think

OK...we are all individuals and therefore have our own opinions. I consider the past to be a learning experience by which we guide our present path as opposed to a rigid set of laws by which we are chained. Times change and society evolves, therefore the rules must also evolve. I do not consider myself responsible for the racial tensions of the 60's anymore than the Jewish usurpation of the "holy land". But that is my opinion and I am entitled to it just as Shane is entitled to his faith. Just because you may consider them to be at odds doesn't mean that we cannot conduct ourselves with respect for each and direct the path of our society with some sort of compromise.

...or we could all just go to our respective corners and commece slinging the racial and religious epithets

 

[ColinEssex]

I consider the past to be a learning experience by which we guide our present path as opposed to a rigid set of laws by which we are chained. Times change and society evolves, therefore the rules must also evolve. I do not consider myself responsible for the racial tensions of the 60's anymore than the Jewish usurpation of the "holy land". But that is my opinion and I am entitled to it just as Shane is entitled to his faith. Just because you may consider them to be at odds doesn't mean that we cannot conduct ourselves with respect for each and direct the path of our society with some sort of compromise.

...or we could all just go to our respective corners and commece slinging the racial and religious epithets

I was merely saying that you think anything 40 years+ in age is irrelevant whereas there is always quotes that your 200+ year old papers are almost sacred, and worse still some 2000+ year old scraps are even more sacred.

Who is right? what your saying is that something is irrelevant except where "we" say it isn't.
You say "rules must evolve" but the bible is as outdated as prehistoric mans IT skills. There is nothing in the bible that can point to an exact event - its all up to the reader to mis-interpret and bend it to suit their needs.
Your constitution about carrying guns like modern day Wyatt Earp is outdated but won't be changed because its a vote loser.

As for racial tensions of the 60's, what about the LA riots you had a few years ago or is that outdated now because its a few years old.
What about the lack of support for blacks after Katrina? or is that outdated as its 14 months old?

BTW I think Rich was referring to the misspelling of the word "coloured" (I may be wrong)

Col

 

[jsanders]

what about the LA riots you had a few years ago or is that outdated now because its a few years old.
Col

Those weren’t actually racial riots. They were a bunch of unruly young men using it as an excuse to ra** and pillage.

 

[jsanders]

You - in 5 words, have at last agreed with what Rich and I have been going on about for years -
Col

Why would you "go on” about someone else’s over inflated opinion of themselves?

Unless of course it's because of your jealousy, of their superior position in the world, and far more advanced culture.

It’s interesting to watch two grown men act so paranoid.

 

[ColinEssex]

Those weren’t actually racial riots.

I thought the riots were as a result of the cops being let off for beating Rodney King in a racial attack and also at the fact no blacks were in the jury.

A jury was chosen that contained eleven white jurors and one of Philipino descent. Black civil rights activists complained that no blacks were chosen for the jury and that the choice of jurors was another example of racism.

obviously the complaint was ignored because it can't be seen for whites to be jailed for beating up a black.

ref

Is this your last day Jenny? its 3 days now since you said you were leaving

Col

 

[Bodisathva]

Personally, I happen to agree with you whole-heartedly about the relevance, substance, and accuracy of the Biblical writings. But again, that boils down to a matter of faith, which is stronger, and more dangerous, than any established government. As for the Constitution, those issues which it does not directly establish precedent, are interpreted by the Supreme Court. Is it out-dated? Probably. I'm of the mind that it is all pretty nifty in theory, but the practical application proves itself to be much more difficult. That is, unfortunately, a problem with any system designed to govern an animal as unpredictable as man.

The LA riots? Were created by those living in sub-standard conditions (for a plethora of reasons, none of which were "whitey keepin' us down"), who were reacting to a perceived slight. That perception was fueled by their living condidtions, but the unfortunate fact is that Rodney King was a f*****g moron, strung out on crack, travelling in excess of 100mph in a Hyundai, that was not bright enough to lay down when 5 guys with guns, clubs, and badges told him to. What did he expect them to do? Tickle him? The whole mess was a byproduct of stupidity, not race...the race card was an excuse.

As for Katrina, it was a disaster. I'm not a Bush fan, but it wasn't his job, that's what FEMA is for. Of couse when the majority of the effected population is black, the race card comes out again. I could expound upon the quirky by-product of the 1960's called reverse-discrimination, but that's another topic for another time.

 

[jsanders]

I thought the riots were as a result of the cops being let off for beating Rodney King

Col

So, in your country; It's OK to ra** and burn a large portion of a city because one person (you don't even know) got a raw deal?

No, it was not about white racism it was about inner city people wanting to exert their culture. Which is lawlessness, drugs, abandoning their children, and no concern for advancing their lives or getting an education.

Racism; what a crock.

Are you really that dense, as to continue to blame white America for the plight of inner city people? Palease you might as well blame yourselves for the plight of Africa.

Are you kidding?

I truly can not believe you actually think that.

 

[jsanders]

As for Katrina, it was a disaster. I'm not a Bush fan, but it wasn't his job, that's what FEMA is for.

Actually it is his fault; personally and historically.

In his effort to fulfill his dream of a Neo American Fascist state he created the Department of Home Land Security.

Well it immediately set about demoralizing FEMA and within 9 months FEMA was bleeding talent and commitment.

No, most all of what we are facing in the way of hardship, is attributable to the Bush administration.

 

[Bodisathva]

If you choose to look at it from that point of view, I'll accept it as his fault. But you can't call it racially motivated.