The Covid cure has arrived!

[NauticalGent]

They used it to get jabs in arms knowing it was impossible to obtain, that's called lying.

This!

 

[Isaac]

OMG ... all of these leftwing media crazies have convinced everyone ivermectin is a nonsense idea, and Japan is using it successfully widespread?

This is amazing, if true, how is this not frontpage news

 

[AccessBlaster]

OMG ... all of these leftwing media crazies have convinced everyone ivermectin is a nonsense idea, and Japan is using it successfully widespread?

This is amazing, if true, how is this not frontpage news

“If you were wondering why Ivermectin was suppressed, it is because the agreement that countries had with Pfizer does not allow them to escape their contract, which states that even if a drug will be found to treat COVID-19, the contract cannot be voided”.

 

[moke123]

OMG ... all of these leftwing media crazies have convinced everyone ivermectin is a nonsense idea, and Japan is using it successfully widespread?

This is amazing, if true, how is this not frontpage news

Japan has not substituted ivermectin for COVID-19 vaccines

False. Japan has not stopped the use of coronavirus vaccines, nor has it substituted them with the parasite drug ivermectin, according to a list of COVID-19 approved medical products from Japan’s Ministry of Health.

apnews.com

 

[The_Doc_Man]

If that's the case why did they dangle "herd immunity" and "natural immunity" like a carrot? Science should say herd immunity is a concept in medicine, not a reality. They used it to get jabs in arms knowing it was impossible to obtain, that's called lying.

Herd immunity IS science. The down side of it is the need for filling in the blanks for infection rates for all the possible different contact situations. Actuaries do this kind of analysis all the time. They have the math and know the methods.

The question is whether someone associated with Dr. Fauci and CDC and other health units has actually tried to do the math regarding herd immunity. But it should be noted that complexity doesn't stop actuaries. Just slows them down a bit. There is where someone should be looking to get some real numbers.

 

[Isaac]

I also saw an article claiming "no" to the japan ivermectin stuff, but it was extremely unconvincing. I'll edit this post from a different pc where I can see a chrome history and post a link to it - it was written in the vernacular and personality of a 3 yr old, which left me quite unpersuaded.

Yes, I know that one japanese doctor (chairman of tokyo association) could have been misinterpreted - and that he does not represent the government (though I have no idea why I would care what the gov thinks, however I do care what japanese doctors are actually doing) - the 2 main claims that these articles (yours and the one I spoke of) are using to say it is 'false'.

Honestly, after reading both AB's article, the one Moke posted, and the one I referenced, I think the fairest assessment of this topic, based on the information I've seen so far, is kind of back to the 'middle' for me, and could be stated as: We have no idea whether Japanese doctors are actually, in fact, using ivermectin to treat covid patients. Those who say "they are" have offered little evidence to support it, and those who say "they are not" have offered no evidence to support that - other than the fact that the government's little "list of covid treatments" does not explicitly call for it to be used, as well as offering a bunch of other interesting but irrelevant facts, such as their vaccination rates.

Now wouldn't it be fun to go to tokyo myself and interview 25 doctors selected at random. I could come back and put this issue to bed.
Anybody want to finance me?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Ivermectin and other therapeutics have moved out of the realm of kooky conspiracy theory into the mainstream consciousness not because of the mainstream media, but in spite of them. People like Joe Rogan cannot be canceled by the left and his truth is able to withstand the constant barrage from the talking heads, who are not without their own agenda.

 

[Isaac]

Tokyo has never been in my top 10 but the Japanese countryside has always struck me as incredibly beautiful. How about if we go interview country doctors

Definitely! As long as there is not too much raw fish ... This may make me an uncultured, non-trendy country bumpkin, but I just can't.

 

[NauticalGent]

As long as there is not too much raw fish ...

Down south, we call it "bait" or "chum"...

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Sashimi is the raw stuff. Sushi can be at least lightly grilled and still qualify.

 

[Isaac]

Well this is an interesting little confession from NBC news. The six states making up the majority of the increase in hospital beds and hospitalization regarding covid.

But wait I'm confused. Where is Texas? Where's Florida? Aren't those the states that have been rejecting some of the "it's just the science" fear mongers that are trying to force everyone to get a vaccine even if they have a miniscule tiny chance of dying or becoming seriously ill from it such as a child or a perfectly healthy adult? Aren't those the states that have been reopening their economies so people's lives could avoid being destroyed and their mental health trashed and the kids could go to school?
Aren't those the two states that have been emphasizing treatment with monoclonal bodies instead of keeping everyone home and businesses shut down?

How positively odd

Wonder if we learn anything from this..

 

[Isaac]

As much as I might be tempted to "root" for anything that takes down the destructive and awful Biden administration, I have to honestly say I'm a little incredulous about this new "outrage" over the fact that the US doesn't have free unlimited immediate home-covid-tests, like (supposedly), the UK does.

"Hey, Johnny got a cookie, why can't we have one too!!"

I don't know about anyone else, but where I live, you can schedule a totally free COVID test in any Walgreens or CVS, any time you want. You might have to wait 24-48 hours, is all. Insurance doesn't matter - they ask for it, only so they can bill the insurance if there is one - you'll get it regardless.
Is that not good enough? Why must everything be perfect for the Outrage Generation?

Is this getting like Voting outrage? There are those who got so used to COVID-Voting that they want it all to be permanent. Drive through, curbside, remote, online, microwave voting. If they so much as think a thought in their head, they feel that's all it should take to vote. No effort whatsoever, so we can have our voices heard. (What kind of a voice is that...honestly?)

 

[Steve R.]

I have to honestly say I'm a little incredulous about this new "outrage" over the fact that the US doesn't have free unlimited immediate home-covid-tests, like (supposedly), the UK does.

A very perceptive point. What has Biden actually done, on his administration's initiative, to "combat" Covid?
Seems that Biden is only melodramatically proposing draconian rules to control the populous. Essentially leaching off the Trump administration's prior Covid successes and not showing us "new" stuff.

 

[AccessBlaster]

If you test negative you will need constant testing because you are constantly exposed. If you test positive you can use this knowledge to quarantine and protect others, and of course, constantly test because you are constantly exposed. So the question becomes how many tests do we need for the rest of our lives.

 

[Isaac]

If you test negative you will need constant testing because you are constantly exposed. If you test positive you can use this knowledge to quartine and protect others, and of course, constantly test because you a constantly exposed. So the question becomes how many tests do we need for the rest of our lives.

Yes, absolutely, that's the high level question, I agree.

When the overall risk of a child becoming seriously ill with COVID is approaching that of being hit with a meteor and we are forcing vaccinations, someone has to stand up and stop the insanity - real, true, insanity.

I just found it amusing, then so stupid that it annoyed me, that the libs are now eating their own over the "lack" of free unlimited home tests.
It's like sheesh, for those who are schiz-ing out about this issue, is it really that hard to drive to the closest CVS? They're every .5 block now.
If rural, ok, send a batch out there and move on.

I think maybe libs are still stuck at home, that's their dilemma. Maybe we can come up with a Tik Tok test where you just take the test digitally by watching a video. That should satisfy everyone left!

 

[NauticalGent]

This is a 38 minute time investment, but very interesting.

 

[Jon]

I had my first ever flu jab last Friday, and then a Covid booster on Monday. Felt below par for the last 6 days and my arm was 5x more sore from the booster than in the previous 2 Covid jabs.

Do any of you guys feel a little rough or listless after a flu jab?

 

[oleronesoftwares]

I'm pretty sure it's drug companies that have developed the potential vaccine(and who will reap the rewards)

You are correct, covid is an opportunity for pharmaceutical companies to cash in on a lot of money and proove to the world that they are very relevant

 

[AccessBlaster]

 

[Isaac]

I had my first ever flu jab last Friday, and then a Covid booster on Monday. Felt below par for the last 6 days and my arm was 5x more sore from the booster than in the previous 2 Covid jabs.

Do any of you guys feel a little rough or listless after a flu jab?

Not me